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  • pappu
    04-19 03:09 PM
    Actually I know someone who got it even faster.

    This Pakistani guy came to the US in 2004 fresh off boat to do Masters. Completed Masters by mid 2005, immediately landed job at MS, they started his GC immediately in EB2 ROW and by end of 2005 he had GC in hand. It was ridiculous.

    This is truly unfair where country of birth determined who gets an 'Employment' based greencard before someone else. It can only be fixed by eliminating per-country limits.





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  • Leo07
    12-01 05:04 PM
    Lottery is good...

    Just to play a devil's advocate..
    Lottery could be targeting the same set of audience that already contribute by other means. Potentially the over-all amount may not get bigger...

    New way of steady income by means of donations to IV...a new avenue would be ideal.

    If we are to loose any of the efforts that pappu has mentioned in the agenda....just for the lack of money...That would be painful





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  • needhelp!
    09-24 07:08 PM
    There have been a lot of updates sent out via the verified state chapter mailing lists. If you are not part of any state chapter please check this page http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=72&Itemid=52 and if there is no state chapter for your state, you can request to become member of a neighboring state chapter.

    http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=286606
    I know the post was entirely wrong and foolish.

    But I feel that I am in the dark about IV activities for the past one year.
    I am one of the silent IV Supporters and long time (from the beginning) monthly contributing IV Member.

    It would be better to have a special thread/monthly bulleting page from IV to tell the members to know about IV activities or progress.

    After the last year July fiasco issue I have not seen any posting about IV activities on the web site other than lot of threads and could not able to figure out the work IV is exactly doing.

    I strongly believe because of IV core team only we were able to come through successful in July 2007 Bulletin issue. But do not know what else is IV doing for the past 12 months.

    The Flowers, Letters and Phone Calls is not working as we expect. I do not know about other activities other than sending letters and phones during every congress session.

    I believe IV need to do some thing different. There is no media reports about legal immigration issue (not for IV) for the past one year.

    My perspective is that we need to find a way that Media and Public will aware of the issues we face every day.
    I am not questioning the IV Core Team. It would be great if the IV members know some details about IV activities every month in a bulletin or thread etc.

    Thanks
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  • ujjwal_p
    08-19 02:55 PM
    Congrats man! Happy for you and your biggest fulfillment.

    By any chance, are you originally from INDIA? If so, we're pleased to strike off one more suckup from our list of billion people.

    Goodluck!

    lol.. nice one.. anyway, congrats dude.. biggest fulfillment.. hmm.. sounds like gollum and "the precious".. this is further proof that the first stop after attaining gc/usc needs to be a shrink..atleast for some of us..



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  • gsc999
    03-13 05:42 PM
    I agree with the reasons behind it, now that I know it.

    Just so, everyone understand, I am not trying to find fault with IV or its members. I am trying to do, what you can call, soul searching.

    We have around 25000 members. Why only 25000, when we know there are millions out there in the same boat. What is stopping them from joining IV and contributing? Of all these 25000 or so members, we only have around 4000 letters sent for Admin fixes.(May be I am wrong about this number, but I believe it is around that range.) What is preventing the others from doing so?

    I strongly believe, that the answers to these questions might help IV in the long run, with more members and possibly more active members. Once we get to that point, IV will no longer be an organization, but it will be a MOVEMENT. Chances of success for a movement is always better than that of an organization. That is what I believe we should try to achieve. I hope everyone agress with that.

    Thanks
    -----
    Yes, this is a conversation.

    A growth to 25K members from 5K is an amazing five folds over a period of around two years. Having said that, there is tremendous scope for future growth. I will let Waldenpond define that, if need be.

    IV's focus is defined by you, our members and the larger macrocosm of high skilled legal immigrant community. We need help and guidance from our members to achieve success with issues like what jnraajan mentions above.

    Just to temper that thought. Using democracy as a metaphor, it would be great to have all the citizen participate and vote in elections but as we all know that is not the case. We might not have the million strong membership yet and if we use the pareto rule of 80:20 then I believe that we do have the "critical mass" to facilitate change. Change to the currently broken immigration process for the high skilled legal immigrants to USA. Lets marshall our existing resources and deploy them effectively to achieve success. We need your active participation for that.

    IVers PM me if you are interested in volunteering, we can talk over the phone too. Let me know.





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  • dasrik
    07-18 11:56 AM
    Date Delivered To USCIS:Jul 2, 2007
    Time Delivered To USCIS:10:23 AM
    Service Center: TSC
    Rejected: Dont Know



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  • arc
    02-01 01:20 PM
    Yes I agree with you legal immigration is not only EB category, but EB+spouse+child category is the largest when we say Legal Immigration, plus questions are posed by Engineers & Doctors and that automatically tells the person who is reading that it is about EB category. But you are welcome to form your questions and post and we will make sure that that becomes popular. If you see the situation from where I am standing the glass is half full my friend!

    Hope things are going well with you, your research and wisdom is always appriciated.

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    Employment based immigration is a very small part of legal immigration.

    Here is a break down of legal immigration #s for 2006 according to Yearbook of Immigration Statistics, published by Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) Office of Immigration Statistics (OIS) (available at Spotlight on Legal Immigration to the United States (http://www.migrationinformation.org/USfocus/display.cfm?id=651) By Gretchen Reinemeyer and Jeanne Batalova | Migration Policy Institute, November 2007).

    1,266,264 immigrants were granted legal residence in 2006.

    159,081 immigrants who received green cards through sponsorship from their US employers accounted for 12.6% of all legal permanent residents.

    However, 87,702 (or 55.1%) of the employment-sponsored immigrants were spouses and children of principal applicants.

    The share of employment-preference immigrants has varied between 3.3 percent (59,525) in 1991 and 22 percent (246,878) in 2005.

    The other categories are family preference (802,712), refugee + asylee (216,454), Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 + parolees (43,546) and Diversity Lottery (44,471).

    Employment based immigration is legal. However, it may help to add legal to the title.

    Employment based immigration is skilled. I think employment based immigration includes cooks, priests, .... They consider themselves to be skilled just like everyone else!

    If you just ask for improving legal immigration, they will improve family based or asylum.

    As some persons learnt yesterday, legal immigration has very low priority as compared to undocumented. Similarly, employment based immigration has no priority in legal immigration!





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  • mhathi
    11-06 03:54 PM
    In reality, many companies who have subsidiaries abroad can use L1 visa program. But H1B offers flexibility that is much desired by many companies. (It is very less abused compared to H1B). No numerical cap on L1B may not go well with many of us. But I am very +ve that the visas are not issued in anticipatory mode like H1B. And why do companies spend 5K if they do not want to get the worker here? Do they like waste money just like that?

    Logically this highlights the real problem in the system - numerical caps. If the caps are not there and companies can get a visa-on demand, they will not spend 5K per visa on anticipatory mode. Because there is no need to do that.

    So no system is perfect. We have to minimize abuse and act responsibly when it comes to sensitive issues like immigration...

    I see only one problem in this logic! Many cases I know of, at least from the 2007 H1B fiasco, paid for the H1Bs through consulting companies FROM THEIR POCKETS. So to answer your question as to why companies would spend $5000 in anticipation, is that they don't. They take it from the applicant. (again I am not saying all do, but there are abusive companies that do).

    No cap on visa numbers will never fly... No political environment will be conducive to bringing in unlimited foreign workers without any restrictions. L1 has no caps because it is very difficult to qualify for an L1 visa, as far as I know. If caps in H1 are removed, you can bet there will be severe restrictions imposed on other aspects of the program.



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  • realizeit
    05-26 07:01 PM
    400k is the unused visas from both FB and EB. Don't know the breakup though.


    The number 400,000 (total unused from family based and employment based) in Mrs. GILLIBRAND's website is an estimate as clearly mentioned in the website itself. During last year's recapture bill discussion season, the unused number many calculated and conlcuded was somewhere between 200K to 225K for employment based category.

    The bill S.1085 doesn't speak of any specific number of visas to be recaptured. It says that, recapture all (unused visas from 1992 through 2007 + unused from previous fiscal year (2008)) and add it to the current fiscal year.

    So, the total should be somewhere between 200K and 225K (or more).





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  • voldemar
    02-28 02:05 PM
    Now I understand. This guy PBECiskillingme bought a substituted labor (used illegal means) to get his application to move ahead. He thinks everyone is like him and thus criticized IV on our forums. It is because of people like him and employers that sell LC, we all get a bad name. He should also be reported to DOL and USCIS.Very strange and insulting conclusions. The only thing I was telling is that there is still time to get labor substitution done. Also there is a risk. Till substitution is banned it's not illegal.



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  • bigboy007
    07-18 04:46 PM
    Are we looking to get the packages back?
    I hope you understood the post and meaning of this thread :

    1. This thread i believe is aiming at one point tracking july filers also making sure if any INFO that NONE were rejected.

    None of us are expecting to get rejected but making sure what ever info we have we are sharing. PERIOD.





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  • mps
    11-26 11:34 AM
    I agree .. no risk no reward!

    I'm itching to finish my 6 months on EAD to change job..

    Using H1B makes one safe. but how many years we want to do the safe job. If I-485 gets denied do u have enough patiences to file another green card. One thing is believe is "We are here to make money, most of us are in our thirties and we have short time remaining to reach our goals. I think we all have one year EAD. wait for 6 months then go on job hopping, learn whatever you can, get into whatever you want. Start a business, do something.... Anything you do will help you in future. Sitting with H1B in pocket may take 4 years cream of your life.
    If you have the talent you can get great salaries anywhere in the world. Because of your talents and hard work you guys are here. World is not small.



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  • akhilmahajan
    03-13 02:28 PM
    IV Core is the best and selfless. They started something, which is going to help everyone in the long run.

    I am a memeber of state chapter and very much believe in this concept. Its all about sharing information and thats what the whole idea is about state chapters.

    The information flows from top to bottom. There are a lot of things which go in the background which you and me are not aware of, but only the people who are working on it and in our case it is the IV Core. Over the period of time they have encoraged people to come forward and take up the cause. A lot of selfless people have come forward and started helping them out in one way or the other.

    What the Core has started is a revolution and it is picking up and a lot more people need to educate themself and join the cause.

    If someone does not understand or does not have any motivation, then one can only try to make them understand and motivate and hope for the best.

    I dont think IV has ever stopped anyone from saying what they want to, but there is a limit to everything. We are educated immigrants so we all need to act like one. If we dont agree on things we need to come forward and discuss them, instead of starting to criticize.
    If you dont share your thoughts then how do you expect people to understand and resolve those issues. So, i will request everyone to come forward with an open mind.

    GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN

    "You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist." - Indira Gandhi





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  • belmontboy
    06-13 09:35 PM
    Type 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007

    EB1-All 41,672 34,168 14,453 31,291 64,731 36,960 26,697
    EB2-All 42,550 44,316 15,406 32,534 42,597 21,911 44,162
    EB3-All 85,847 88,002 46,415 85,969 129,070 89,922 85,030
    EB-All 179,195 174,968 82,137 155,330 246,878 159,081 155,889

    EB1-I 3,543 2,820 1,266 2,998 6,336 3,156 2,855
    EB2-I 21,355 21,310 8,536 16,262 16,687 3,720 6,203
    EB3-I 16,339 17,354 10,647 19,889 23,250 3,006 17,795
    EB-I 41,720 41,919 20,818 39,496 47,160 17,358 26,853

    Overall EB3 has got more numbers than EB2 in last 7 years for all and india specific grouping.

    I think EB3 has received its fair share from spill over [atleast for india]. The real problem is that there are simply tooo many people in EB3.
    I am not sure why u would still think "EB3-India -- Most Unfortunate/Effected Category "!



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  • pappu
    12-13 10:02 AM
    The ideas are good and in the past we have contemplated having a paid member area on IV site too. However the biggest problem we have is - who will manage it?
    We all have full time jobs and already have our hands full. Adding anything extra to the current workload will be too much work for us.

    Either we hire someone to do it. And to hire we need money. We find it hard to even raise money for Lobbying every other month. There are other important areas like publicity we can look at too if we get more funds. So we cannot hire anyone to manage this.

    Now can someone volunteer for it? Yes but how many people come forward with a commitment in a 25k membership? You can see from the thread
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15289
    So if people are not willing to make a commitment and have their spouses to help us from home for this cause, we cannot take our ideas any further. We can only do what our limited time, funds and manpower allows.

    This is a reality and is the reason why we all do not have greencards till now. Solving this greencard issue is not difficult. Its only a matter of gathering enough people and people wanting to make an effort. IV has been around for 2 years now and only 25K people have signed up. We should have had about half million signups by now and millions of dollars to spend on large scale lobbying, media publicity and several initiatives to draw the attention of lawmakers on this issue. That has not yet happened and will not happen until we all indicate how badly we want greencards.





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  • mrajatish
    04-17 06:01 PM
    Yes, this is just so demoralizing. People spend hours asking questions on different issues but they do not take a couple of mins to send even 25-50 dollars (a good dinner costs as much).

    Guess everyone wants a free lunch.



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  • mirage
    08-13 05:07 PM
    All the Congressman & senators have their Faxes listed Just google it..But Don't have fax for others..Please send this out guys...





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  • Macaca
    02-15 02:03 PM
    Credibility is lost if dissenting views are deleted. Let's agree to disagree AMICABLY.

    Let's agree to disagree- I am very uncomfortable with the attacks on those who share dissenting views or who attack IV core team etc. Let's not forget that we're a democracy and thus entitled to share dissenting views - it is actually healthy.

    On the other hand, at the end of a slugfest, we should make some progress. I have not seen any progress in all slugfests. My previous post has an example.

    In my own very narrow/assinine/conceted/... way, progress is contributing to IV. Hence, I am focussed on progress in following.

    Core is negotiating with a lobbying firm. I understand that QGA was paid 60K.

    1. Where is the money for the lobbying firm?
    2. Whose problem is it to arrange money for the lobbying firm?
    3. How does discussing any issue in the forums help us in arranging money for the lobbying firm?





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  • cinqsit
    01-17 12:59 PM
    count me in. I can provide monetary support - this is all wrong!

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    borgho
    06-07 10:44 AM
    I totally agree with the reasoning logiclife presented.

    Its very important that we (legal immigrants - especially work based GC applicants) take this cause seriously with some action or contributions. Following points have convinced me more:

    1. Large IT companies have acted dissapointingly as far as our cause goes. They are ready to pay $85 or $100 or more for us as consultants but wont take up our cause. Most have increasingly decided to hire H1s as consultants rather than hiring H1s directly and even when they do hire H1s they are reluctant to file green cards. Some will file green cards just to keep us hooked - but wont petition on our behalf to make the process more efficient. IT companies used to be our biggest supporters - which we seem to be loosing as time goes by. (There are a few exceptions of course - not all companies are just happy to exploit us and not help us).

    2. Since the terrorist attacks most states and cities along with the federal government have systematically erroded privileges (sometimes even basic privileges) granted to legal immigrants. They have been successful since the mentality of the nation has turned negative towards new immigrants. Of course this has been done very efficiently in sublimal ways by mounting hurdles for us. One stark example - Drivers licenses for immigrants can only be issued in some states at few select DMV (or BMV) locations (hidden behind a logic that not all BMV centers are well equipped to handle the security checks now required to be conducted on immigrants before granting IDs). This is ridiculous - we are expected to work but it will be increasingly difficult to do what we are expected to (privlege to drive is an example).

    I am sure folks can add more points. These points make me feel as if our cause is not worth worrying about for even fair minded residents - we are a forgotten lot. Therefore, we must raise our voice.

    borgho.





    zCool
    02-27 02:14 PM
    labor sub is being cancelled.. Don't get into it.. you will loose money and gain nothing..



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